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When I first saw this the top of my head almost blew off! WTF????? I'm SO very glad I'm not with that department. I really would have had a say about the whole matter and brought it in front of the National media.

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AMEN brother, on all counts. On being called a racist, one must first know the definition or they are just repeating what they heard. That's what children do. Also, when a proper argument can't be made with facts, then name calling occurs. That's what children do. I generally never answer such comments, as I do not have adult conversations with children.
I pledge allegiance to the Flag, of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands: One Nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all, amen.
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I THINK YOU HAVE PROVEN WHO IS JUVENILE HERE JEFFREY
tough guy i see ...looking for a new dept. now thats funny
Well i don't understand what the city is talking about. If all the uniforms has a american flag shoulder patch then.....Duh..... they would be Uniform. I'm just about sick of all this political correctness. I will always stand proudly for my GOD and my Country.
I love your uniform sir! Our uniforms wear the patch on the shoulder as well. I'm very proud of our fire district.
I agree with the Chief there. Great uniform.
The progressive movement that we have in our country can not allow anyone to have a love for our republic.It undermines the plan for tearing it apart. this is a small battle in a great war that we now are engaged in. Do not doubt that it is a war. Someone who has a radical progressive agenda is behind this. follow the trail and he or she will be shown. turn the light on them and they will scatter like cockroaches when the kitchen light is turned on.
GIVEN THE GREAT RESPONSES I HAVE SEEN HERE I THOUGHT SOME HERE MIGHT LIKE TO READ THE LETTER BELOW I SENT LAST YEAR TO THE IAFF.


MY LETTER TO MY UNION LEADERSHIP IN D.C.
by John S Cinque

President Harold A. Schaitberger 27 October 2010

President International Association of Firefighters

1750 New York Ave. NW

Washington DC 20006



Mr. Schaitberger,



This is my second letter to you regarding my union’s political action and support of candidates. Yesterday I received our SEPT/OCT issues and to say the least I was horrified to read your letter in the beginning.

My past letter dealt with the backing of mostly liberal candidates for political office and how I felt we as a union did not have the best interests of the country in mind. The union leadership, headed by you down in Washington, continually backs liberal progressive candidates under the guise that they are our friends and they give us what we deserve. Exactly what is it that we deserve, as you say in your statement? We work in an honorable profession but it is a job none the less. Those in the public sector pay our salaries. When things are going great they don’t give us a second thought, but now with very difficult times upon us, they are looking to blame someone. Our union should be standing up and saying we understand everyone is hurting and we are going to set the example to everyone that we will work hard helping everyone. That is what honorable leadership is. It means setting the example for others to follow. It is not sitting there saying, “give me, give me”, or “this is what we deserve”. Believe me; those paying our salaries are not going to say, “Oh the poor fireman, they want more”. You think coming out and saying, “Hey guys you have an exemption from health care reform until 2016” is doing us a favor? When the federal deficit crumbles like a house of cards and the smoke clears from the mirrors, then we will get exactly what we deserve and no one in the community will care about the poor fireman.

You talk about preferring Harkin, Pelosi, and Reid because apparently they are “our friends”. They may be yours but they certainly are not mine. If aligning yourself with liberal, socialist progressive’s is what you think is the right path, I can tell you, I will be nowhere near that path. My path is the path of constitutional freedoms which will lead to prosperity. Small limited government beholden to the people, not the other way around. If you want a socialist nanny state then you’re on the right path. When you say there are “fundamental differences between those who work with us and those guided by a different set of principles”, I could not agree more. As you state, the Tea Party is influencing the elections. Yes they are because the sleeping majority has awaken and take it from me, they have no intentions of going back to sleep. If you want our jobs and benefits gutted then keep throwing your lot in with the progressives destroying our Republic. They will be relegated to the history books and the public will remember where we stood as a union. Those without honor will die a traitor’s death in the end and that death will be our jobs. You call Senator DeMint a zealot and Governor Christi an oversized poster child for a reformist agenda, Shame on you. You call that leadership because I call it childish behavior? You offend the very things I hold dear. You go on to say this election is about preserving our jobs but I think you could not be more wrong. This election is about the very fabric of our country, it’s history, it’s values, and it’s very survival. There will be no jobs when the republic crumbles. Exactly who will be left to pay the bills when we are all equal through the delusional idea of wealth distribution? There are storm clouds on the horizon and the barometer you talk about is turning due south to a storm warning. Everything our union has accomplished throughout the years to move our profession along with safety manning and benefits will be squandered in one election cycle.

I have been a member of this union for 17 years and I do this job not because I want to be a fireman but because I am a fireman. It is the calling I chose after my service to my country. That oath I took to protect and defend the Constitution of The United States still runs through my blood. I can no longer sit by and listen to how great our union is while we continue down the path of ruin. I find our union no more respectable then the SCIU and ACORN. We continue our affiliation with the AFL-CIO even when Richard Trumka the president promotes “reviving socialism as a legitimate philosophy”! He travels the world promoting economic and social justice with the European socialist’s forum. Then on October 2nd of this year, he gives a speech in Washington DC to a crowd holding communist party signs and workers of the world unite banners. He says during his speech and I quote “people who want to build a middle class economy make up a majority of Americans whose socialist voices need to be heard. We are hoping that people come together and say, we’re the socialist majority and we can have a different kind of country.” Is this what you believe Mr. President? I find these statements repulsive and vile. In my own state of Connecticut, I receive mailings of who I need to vote for from my local, state representative union. Rosa DeLauro is endorsed because you call her a friend. Here is a woman who is a member of the Democrat socialist caucus in Washington and who also was an honored guest at the New Haven Peoples center here locally in August 2010. A group founded in 1937 and is the local hub for the states communist party. Is this what my union has to offer me, a candidate who is no stranger to communist causes? Then I see we are backing Richard “when I returned from Vietnam” Blumenthal. He was called the worst attorney general in the country by the Counsel for Special Projects and the Competitive Enterprise Institute. They called him a tireless crusader for the growing power of his own office. He stated himself that his goal was to shake up and reshape the way industry does business across the nation. Since when was that a role of a state official? I guess he is just a friend as you say.

I no longer call myself a proud member of the International Association of Firefighters. I hang my head in shame at the very thought of what this union has become.

John S. Cinque

Local 1205

East Haven, Connecticut
Wow! Great letter!

Correct me if I'm wrong Jeffrey, but the flag came off the duty uniform, not the PPE.
That's the great thing about living in the USA, you have the right to wear, not wear, wave, not wave , or (hate to say it) burn, or not burn the flag.
Well, well, well, what a lively debate this has turned out to be. I'm on the side of America, which means I side with keeping the patch. I'm a proud veteran and a proud member of law enforcement and the flag is an extension of that.
Members keeping track of this topic, here's an email I received from Dennis Roe, Local #246, Bakersfield Ca.:

I've tried the better part to comment on the above subject. I've been unable to create an account from my iPhone. We are in Sacramento talking to Senators, and assembly members about REAL issues that concern all of us in the fire service. Here is the post I was trying to make, (I've been posting this on all the news sites and blogs as I come across them.

If you can post this we'd appreciate it.

I don’t know where some of you think this is our idea. I’ve been a Fire Fighter for the City of Bakersfield since 1986. We, as a Dept. are very patriotic, hosting, and paying for the 4th of July show for over half a century. We’ve purchased huge American flags to fly on our ladder trucks for every function that’s is asked of us. We’ve proudly worn the flag on our shoulders for years. Our children serve in the armed forces of our country, (I have 3 sons who’ve served in Iraq).

This is not a newsworthy item. Our dept. is simply moving the flag to our nameplates. It’s just so we look UNIFORM. There have been at least 3 different styles of the American flags on our uniform, (patches sewn on, and embroidery) the shirts come from different vendors.

So instead of a hodgepoge of different styles, we are trying to ALL LOOK UNIFORM!!!

I’m sorry that you’ve been misled by “the Media”. But you should know by now that they never let the facts, get in the way of a good story.

Thank you very much.
Dennis Roe.
Local #246
Bakersfield, Ca.

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